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snek_caselast Saturday at 5:37 PM12 repliesview on HN

Ubuntu also tried this with Unity. They were hoping that Ubuntu would become more popular on tablets if they had a more tablet-friendly UI... They imposed this on desktop users even though nobody asked for it and basically nobody used Linux on a tablet. It was kind of a disaster. Ubuntu is a commercial entity though, so yeah, prone to the same kind of bad management decisions. as Microsoft and Apple. At least with Linux you have options. Personally I just want Linux to keep becoming more reliable over time, and have better support for energy-saving features on laptops. It's sad that Ubuntu still has issues waking up from sleep mode in 2025. Somehow those problems haven't been fixed in 20 years.


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blauditoreyesterday at 11:04 AM

>They imposed this on desktop users even though nobody asked for it

I loved Unity on desktop, and I know many others too. But there was a very loud group of complainers who made them kill it. I still use it on some installations, bit it's obviously breaking more and more.

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CarVaclast Saturday at 6:14 PM

The thing is, Unity was great as a UI even on desktop. The main issue was poor performance early on.

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tormehlast Saturday at 9:00 PM

I suspect that's an Nvidia problem. Never been an issue for me using AMD.

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lossyalgolast Saturday at 6:53 PM

I also still have tons of issues waking from sleep mode on various PCs running Win10/11 so I wouldn't be so quick to label it an OS issue.

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throwaway2037yesterday at 10:39 AM

    > It's sad that Ubuntu still has issues waking up from sleep mode in 2025.
This has little to do with Ubuntu and probably much more to do with proprietary hardware that makes it difficult to a write a bug-free driver for Linux kernel sleep mode.

What device is giving you the most trouble with sleep mode?

godelskiyesterday at 12:43 AM

I remember them working on a hybrid OS that would run on your phone or tablet and then you could switch it to desktop mode. Actually looks like they're still working on that

https://www.ubuntu-touch.io/

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seriously guys, can we design product pages so they actually give you a sense of how the product actually works? That page sucks.

I found a video and honestly while I love the idea it seems that the implementation is the worst of both worlds. Who thought that this pull down menu style was a reasonable idea....

https://youtu.be/BuuW5X_ukAk?t=109

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just6979yesterday at 1:01 AM

Many of the sleep issues these days are actually Microsoft's fault. They tried to impose AlwaysOn AlwaysConnected but did a terrible job of specifying it and quality controlling implementation.

I had a Dell Precision from 2020 that never woke from S3 sleep properly, because Dell didn't care about S3 because they expected AoAc (which Windows now defaults to) to actually work. Except A) people don't want laptops that act like phones, and B) it was terrible and munched so much battery it was way better to just hibernate all the time.

Switched to ThinkPad from 2020 and it has a BIOS setting for "classic sleep" and S3 sleep works perfectly.

And Fedora gets 3-4x the battery life than Windows did for general use on both, with much less heat and fan usage, right out of the box. Not to mention bullshit like Windows taking literal seconds to show a directory's contents in the file manager... I'm completely done with Windows for anything beyond gaming (but Valve is changing that rapidly), and dual-booting to a bare Windows install for corporate remote access apps or such, on everything in my house.

jayd16last Saturday at 10:39 PM

Keep in mind there's a whole class of touch screen laptops that did need to be serviced by Windows and Linux.

abustamamyesterday at 1:27 AM

Wait, what sleep mode issues are you talking about? I've been able to wake my ubuntu machine up using my keyboard and mouse. I haven't gotten around to testing steam link wake on lan though, I'd be disappointed if that didn't work.

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cyberaxlast Saturday at 11:55 PM

I liked Unity! Especially the global menu that macOS also has. I was disappointed when Ubuntu stopped supporting it.

globalnodelast Saturday at 11:43 PM

yep ubuntu lost me with the tablet ui and snaps.