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mft_yesterday at 11:45 PM1 replyview on HN

Given a good proportion of his success has rested on somehow simplifying or commodifying existing expensive technology (e.g. rockets, and lots of the technology needed to make them; EV batteries) it's surprising that Musk's response to lidar being (at the time) very expensive was to avoid it despite the additional challenges that this brought, rather than attempt to carve a moat by innovating and creating cheaper and better lidar.

> So it’s not a surprise to see the low end models with lidar.

They could be going for a Tesla-esque approach, in that by equipping every car in the fleet with lidar, they maximise the data captured to help train their models.


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spiderfarmertoday at 2:35 AM

The ways in which Musk dug himself in when experts predicted this exact scenario confirmed to me he was not as smart as some people think he was. He seemed to have drank his own koolaid back then.

And if he still doesn’t realize and admit he is wrong then he is just plain dumb.

Pride is standing in the way of first principles.

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