"What they do to obtain" ah nice goal post shift.

When legally obtained, training is fine. Training doesnt violate copyright. Unauthorised copying and distribution does. Which is why OpenAI should have just paid for physical copies of all those books and scanned them.

>We just need a very old system about copyright to catch up already so we can ban the practice.

No we really don't need copyright to get worse. Its pretty damn harmful as it is.