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gmueckltoday at 1:28 AM2 repliesview on HN

But no business is going to fix it. The market is captured. Only a radical change of insurance laws is going to have any impact. Mandate that insurance must be not for profit. Mandate at least decent minimal coverage standards and large insurance pools that must span age groups and risk groups.


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erutoday at 1:38 AM

Many hospitals are already non-profit. That doesn't seem to bring down prices. Why would you think that this would work for insurance?

Profit isn't even a big part of the overall revenue.

> Mandate at least decent minimal coverage standards

I assume you want higher coverage standards than what currently exists? Independently of whether that would be the morally right thing to do (or not), it would definitely increase prices.

> and large insurance pools that must span age groups and risk groups.

Why does your insurance need a pool? An actuary can tell you the risk, and you can price according to that. No need for any pooling. Pooling is just something you do, when you don't have good models (or when regulations forces you).

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kunaitoday at 1:41 AM

These solutions are often proposed as easy fixes but I'm skeptical that they actually will do much to reduce healthcare costs. Healthcare is fundamentally expensive. Not-for-profit hospitals and for-profit hospitals don't really substantively differ in terms of out-of-pocket expenditures for patients; I find it difficult to imagine that forcing insurance companies to be nonprofit would do much to reduce costs.

> large insurance pools that must span age groups and risk groups.

What you describe (community rating) has been tried and it works. But it requires that a lot of young, healthy people enroll, and seniors receive most of the care. In an inverted demographic pyramid like most Western economies have, this is a ticking time bomb, so costs will continue to rise.

> Mandate at least decent minimal coverage standards

I think a better solution is to allow the government to threaten in negotiating prices with companies as Canada does; it greatly reduces rent-seeking behavior by pharmaceutical companies while allowing them to continue earning profits and innovating. (I understand a lot of the complaints against big pharma but they are actually one of the few sectors of the economy that doesn't park their wealth and actually uses it for substantive R&D, despite what the media will tell you, and countless lives have been saved because of pharma company profits)

Essentially the gist of what I'm saying, as someone who has been involved with and studied this industry for the better part of five years, is that it's much more complex than what meets the eye.

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