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threethirtytwotoday at 2:23 AM1 replyview on HN

This argument doesn’t make sense to me. Insurance companies are structurally incentivized to minimize payouts across the board. They want hospital bills lower, physician compensation lower, and patient payouts as small as possible. If insurers had unilateral power, total medical spending would collapse, not explode.

The real source of high medical costs is the entity that sets the hospital bill in the first place.

The explanation is much simpler than people want to admit, but emotionally uncomfortable: doctors and hospitals are paid more than the free market would otherwise justify. We hesitate to say this because they save lives, and we instinctively conflate moral worth with economic compensation. But markets don’t work that way.

Economics does not reward people based on what they “deserve.” It rewards scarcity. And physician labor is artificially scarce.

The supply of doctors is deliberately constrained. We are not operating in a free market here. Entry into the profession is made far more restrictive than is strictly necessary, not purely for safety, but to protect incumbents. This is classic supply-side restriction behavior, bordering on cartel dynamics.

See, for example: https://petrieflom.law.harvard.edu/2022/03/15/ama-scope-of-p...

We see similar behavior in law, but medicine is more insidious. Because medical practice genuinely requires guardrails to prevent harm and quackery, credentialing is non-negotiable. That necessity makes it uniquely easy to smuggle in protectionism under the banner of “safety.”

The result is predictable: restricted supply, elevated wages, and persistently high medical costs. The problem isn’t mysterious, and it isn’t insurance companies. It’s a supply bottleneck created and defended by the profession itself.

Insurance companies aren't innocent angels in this whole scenario either. When the hospital bill fucks them over they don't even blink twice when they turn around and fuck over the patient to bail themselves out. But make no mistake, insurance is the side effect, the profession itself is the core problem.


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FireBeyondtoday at 3:06 AM

> This argument doesn’t make sense to me. Insurance companies are structurally incentivized to minimize payouts across the board. They want hospital bills lower, physician compensation lower, and patient payouts as small as possible. If insurers had unilateral power, total medical spending would collapse, not explode.

They absolutely do not.

They have their profit levels capped at 15% by law and regulation. That means if the insurer wants more absolute dollars of profit, prices must go up.

It also means that if they push prices down they necessarily have less funding to administer those plans, even if the needs are the same (same number of belly buttons, same patient demographics and state of health).

As you note there's also other variables, but this claim: "Insurance companies are structurally incentivized to minimize payouts across the board" is absolutely and categorically not so.