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jasongilltoday at 2:21 PM14 repliesview on HN

It's $12.99/mo or $129/yr for a subscription that includes Final Cut Pro, Logic Pro, Pixelmator Pro, Motion, Compressor, MainStage, Keynote, Pages, and Numbers

Educational discount with verification required drops the price to $2.99/mo / $29.99/yr.

The regular-price subscription includes family sharing, education price does not.

One-time purchase versions remain available: Final Cut Pro ($299.99), Logic Pro ($199.99), Pixelmator Pro ($49.99), Motion ($49.99), Compressor ($49.99), and MainStage ($29.99).

Comes out January 28th


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jasoneckerttoday at 2:30 PM

The most important benefits in my opinion are choice and price - people like me who prefer to buy software outright can still do so at a reasonable cost, while others who opt for a subscription can also do so (again, at a reasonable cost).

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thecupisbluetoday at 2:23 PM

That's actually surprisingly cheap compared to other subscriptions in the industry, especially for such a high powered suite.

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btowntoday at 3:54 PM

As someone who's loved Logic Pro since the days before Apple bought Emagic, this is amazing that it will be accessible to a broader audience.

There are many discussions e.g. https://gearspace.com/board/music-computers/1433515-why-does... about the reasons for its popularity, but one stands out to me - its event data model.

There are far too many tools out there (from FL Studio on one end, to MuseScore on the other) that present piano-roll-based rapid prototyping and traditional western score notation as diametric opposites. From day 1, Logic challenged itself "what if we can use the same event-based data model to render both."

None of this complexity is hidden - you can edit the raw event stream directly. If you're a developer familiar with, say, React, it makes music creation quite intuitive - everything from visual to audio output is a function of a transparently formatted data store.

And while that has its challenges, and some of the UX innovations of e.g. MuseScore have been slower to arrive in Logic, because of this "dual life" it's unmatched as a pedogogical tool, and a professional creative tool as well.

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g947otoday at 2:45 PM

I thought they basically gave away Keynote/Pages etc to anyone with an Apple device?

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ksectoday at 3:01 PM

>Comes out January 28th

I wonder why? Why not today but 28th of Jan?

Part of me thinks M5 MacBook Air and M5 Pro MacBook Pro will also be released on January 28th.

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xattttoday at 5:33 PM

> Educational discount with verification required drops the price to $2.99/mo / $29.99/yr.

Guess it’s time to take some online self-paced courses at a university for no reason in particular …

dangoodmanUTtoday at 2:36 PM

Thank god they preserved the one time purchase. I bought all of these apps back in like ~2013 and have been using them for literally 13 years with all updates (fcp, compressor, motion)

good on them

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simjndtoday at 3:04 PM

But Keynote, Pages and Numbers are already free

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prodigycorptoday at 2:27 PM

time to dust off that 20 year old edu email address. with these discounts, college has paid for itself!

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cultofmetatrontoday at 3:47 PM

the other benefit is that subs can be a sort of extended trial. Ive been wanting to try out final cut pro but I don't want to do a full video project if i'm going to be evaluating it. better to have 1-3 months to really know before I plunk down 299 bucks.

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Forgeties79today at 2:35 PM

Not related to your comment exactly but I feel like I need to get this out in this thread somewhere:

As someone who defended FCPX and used it professionally for years even when it was at its most hated (2011 or so), it’s been woefully supported the last few years and no one should be on it anymore. Resolve Studio outclasses it top to bottom for the same one-time cost and runs great on both MacOS and Windows. Linux it’s bumpy unfortunately but it does technically run lol

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kolanostoday at 5:19 PM

Does this mean Keynote and Pages are now paid products? Aren't they included with Mac OS?

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drcongotoday at 2:41 PM

That's actually a hell of a deal considering I already pay $5 a month just for Logic on the iPad.

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deafpolygontoday at 4:04 PM

My concern here is are they going to start locking features for Pages, Numbers, and Keynote behind a paywall? Yes, it’s free—but will they still have all of the newer features without a subscription?

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