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alex43578yesterday at 5:05 PM4 repliesview on HN

By only giving Ukraine $175,000,000,000, instead of $500B? Or $1T and American boots on the ground? When has American done enough to fight Ukraine’s war for them?


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ceejayozyesterday at 5:17 PM

> When has American done enough to fight Ukraine’s war for them?

I'm inclined to think Ukraine is fighting our war for us.

The 1980s Cold Warriors would've been flabbergasted at how cheap taking out the Russian military at the knees would wind up being.

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sophaclesyesterday at 5:34 PM

Most of the money "given" to Ukraine was older stockpiled weapons that were approaching EOL or at least "refresh cycle" anyway and needed to be replaced. Instead of throwing it away or selling it, they gave it to Ukraine, and most of the actual money spend went to US armaments companies.

The price tag you quote is the same as the "an $X value thrown in for free" you see in "deals" from shady companies.

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watwutyesterday at 9:48 PM

In the past, Biden administration gave help to Ukraine. Trump stopped it entirely.

Second, Trump is very much helping Russia, literally taking Russian positions in negotiations and pressuring only on Ukraine - into bad deals.

Trump also talks admirably about Putin. So no, America switched sides.

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alex43578yesterday at 5:27 PM

>I'm inclined to think Ukraine is fighting our war for us.

Is there a war we needed to fight with Russia in this decade, the next decade, or the last, and if so, is Ukraine even damaging the parts that matter?

Russia nukes hold America at threat, not a bunch of conscripts and some old BMPs. America isn’t safer if Ukraine scores another 100K Russian casualties, and there’s even an argument that a destabilized, volatilized Russia would be more dangerous for America.

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