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gruezyesterday at 5:15 PM1 replyview on HN

>They did murder a woman, but I agree that one murder is far short of a civil war.

"violence" covers more than just murder, and there's plenty of ICE violence to go around.


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mikkupikkuyesterday at 5:20 PM

Protestors and cops having tussles in the streets falls short of my bar for "brutal violence"; shooting a woman in the face certainly qualifies, but I am not seeing anything like that so widespread that it could motivate a drone ban like some people in this discussion are asserting. The political violence in America right now doesn't even come close to what was normal in living memory in the 20th century. America today is very peaceful, not that you'd think it from following the media.

The DJI ban is about China, not domestic protests.

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