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michelsedghtoday at 6:06 PM16 repliesview on HN

And countless human rights and freedom activists completely absolutely silent. They chose to be silent about Iran, it feels like iranian blood is worth less than other places apparently.


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averysmallbirdtoday at 6:25 PM

As someone very vocal on Iran, I find these recriminations shallow and generally intended to be punitive about those positions in those others places.

By the same precedent, it opens up Iranian human rights activists to the same endless accusations — when were you vocal on M23, Haiti, Kashmir, Kurds, Muslims in India, etc etc. I don't think it's countless silent organizations, and those organizations or activists are generally not in position to be able to influence the IRI or IRGC.

I think you have distinguish between feckless organizations like the ITU, and say, college student campus activists.

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fenwick67today at 6:19 PM

If you're an American, what could protesting Iran possibly accomplish? They are already sanctioned out the wazoo and our government already doesn't like the government there.

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volkktoday at 6:09 PM

I think this gives further evidence that these huge campaigns and marches/protests/street graffiti are very deliberate manipulation by certain groups and a lot of money.

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marstalltoday at 6:12 PM

what are you referring to? Amnesty International, to take one example, has a huge banner supporting Iran's protestors on their homepage rn

https://www.amnesty.org/en/

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RobertoGtoday at 6:18 PM

On the other hand, there are a lot of people that is suddenly very worried about Iran but had nothing to say about other places.

Some, even support the terrible things that are going on, today and for a very long time, in those other places.

anon7000today at 6:26 PM

Well, for starters, one person really can’t care about every possible issue, even if they wanted to. So people and groups may get very passionate about one thing that really pulls on the heartstrings, hits close to home, or is more related to their own country’s policies. (For example, those protesting Palestine may protest US’s typically very strong support of Israel.)

What am I going to do when I wake up to the news that yet another country under the control of religious fanatics is abusing their people? Demand the US invades them? Go to the streets every single day for every new issue (of which there are countless)? Demand sanctions against their government (already broadly exists)? Fly there myself? (Not sure if possible, and what help would that do?)

Who is choosing to be silent about Iran? Lack of knowledge, maybe, but deliberate planning? That would be the fault of media and perhaps the wealthy controlling the media, if it’s happening. Not the everyday person. I guarantee you, next to no one wakes up and decides “hm, I will choose to not talk about X atrocity today.”

You’re angry at the wrong people.

imjonsetoday at 6:32 PM

Human lives have the same value, but does Iran suppress the protesters with the tacit approval or active support of the West? If not who to protest against then? The Ayatollah?

fennecbutttoday at 6:52 PM

Well same thing as gaza, idk why the west mostly supports Israel. Is it because they're more "like us" than gazans?

I mean...how about we just not kill each other. Kept the drawn lines, make "settlers" illegal and be done with it.

But nah we all tribal monkeys, our species is poisoned by evolution. So we'll never stop taking from each other, killing each other.

epolanskitoday at 7:02 PM

Such as?

stetraintoday at 6:29 PM

Are you speaking out, protesting, or otherwise taking the actions that you are accusing others of abstaining from?

baxtrtoday at 6:22 PM

It seems as if the the word genocide has no use if it’s your own people your mass killing.

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andrepdtoday at 6:30 PM

Which orgs are you talking about specifically? Don't sling mud in such a vague way. Here's Amnesty's homepage https://www.amnesty.org/en/. The UN has already issued statements. What do you mean exactly? Random nobodies on social media?

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cyberaxtoday at 6:25 PM

Worse. We had an Iranian demonstration in Seattle, and "Free Palestine" protestors came there with megaphones to disrupt it.

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almostheretoday at 6:26 PM

Because that's not what they are - they are communists trying to mix the right ingredients for their next rage cycle.

conceptiontoday at 6:08 PM

We’ve always been at war with Eastasia.