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jeroadhdtoday at 7:21 PM2 repliesview on HN

Again with the confidential VM and remote attestation crypto theater? Moxie has a good track record in general, and yet he seems to have a huge blindspot in trusting Intel broken "trusted VM" computing for some inexplicable reason. He designed the user backups of Signal messages to server with similar crypto secure "enclave" snake-oil.


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tkz1312today at 8:05 PM

AFAIK the signal backups use symmetric encryption with user generated and controlled keys and anonymous credentials (https://signal.org/blog/introducing-secure-backups/). Do you have a link about the usage of sgx there?

Also fwiw I think tees and remote attestation are a pretty pragmatic solution here that meaningfully improves on the current state of the art for llm inference and I'm happy to see it.

liuliutoday at 7:52 PM

I think there is only so much you can do practically. Without a secure "enclave", there isn't really much you can do. What's your alternative?