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burntoyesterday at 9:26 PM7 repliesview on HN

> Motivation is a hired trait. The only place where managers motivate people is in management books

Initial motivation is the hired trait. It’s very easy to demotivate people. The trick is to not do that.


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tyreyesterday at 10:15 PM

Yeah this 100%.

One of my core philosophies as a manager is that by default I should get the fuck out of the way. From there, identify the biggest issues and solve them.

If you're successful hiring great people, I really don't understand the desire to micromanage them. Or do silly things that are demotivating, like 996 or trying to mislead them / market things / hide the bad stuff.

Treating people like adults is that One Neat Trick that influencer bloggers don't want you to know.

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al_borlandyesterday at 9:50 PM

A bad manager can turn a great employee into a good one. It’s really hard to go back once that happens.

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vjvjvjvjghvyesterday at 9:33 PM

“ It’s very easy to demotivate people”

So true. And really hard to reverse

loire280yesterday at 9:41 PM

I may not be using the same definition of "motivation" as the author, but understanding what motivates your people, putting the right mix of people together to work on the right problems, and knowing how and when to apply pressure to get people to do their best work are absolutely something managers can do to motivate their teams.

OhMeadhbhyesterday at 10:31 PM

we used to say "employees don't quit jobs, they quit managers." i was very happy at Amazon until they moved me under a sub-optimal manager. i quit less than a month later. that manager got promoted. this will tell you everything you need to know about working at Amazon.

maybe they were trying to get me to quit. maybe that area's director was incompetent. maybe both.

cmrdporcupineyesterday at 9:31 PM

Yep people have all sorts of sources of motivations. One of the key ones is a sense of ownership. Many people join startups instead of BigCorp because they want voice and influence that they don't get in a larger company. I've seen so many founders, managers, leaders, etc kill that by not recognizing this fundamental fact.

Of course there's also the problem that you can find and hire people who are motivated people but there's absolutely no guarantee people are going to be motivated for your specific problem.

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hahahahhaahyesterday at 9:39 PM

Thw word hired is doing a lot of work.

Is motivation intrinsic to a person.

Or is it a person plus situation.

Ot is it person, situation and reason (reason given in interview)

I have been most motivated when there was an aha in the interview process. Or a "cooll!" feeling. For me usually about the end product over the tech stack. I like to work on things I like to use myself.

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