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selfsimilaryesterday at 5:15 PM7 repliesview on HN

"The language is intentionally neutral and apolitical, without any stance on social or political issues."

I don't applaud or condemn this, but it's strange that it's on the home and history pages. Putting this in a code of conduct document for collaborators might make sense, but on the home page? Maybe I'm the weird one, but for most languages I consider them a tool. So it's like going to the hardware store and seeing a hammer that has a label "This is not a Liberal or Conservative hammer." Yeah, buddy I know. It's just a hammer.


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tshaddoxyesterday at 6:40 PM

It's kinda funny. There is a popular claim that goes something like "silence or inaction is implicit support for the status quo." The point is that there's not really such a thing as "not taking sides."

I don't quite agree with that, simply because no matter how many things you do take a stance on, there's always an infinite number of things that you haven't taken a stance on.

But when you go out of your way to explicitly mention that you're refusing to take a stance on all social or political issues, that actually does feel pretty close to explicit approval of the status quo for all social or political issues. Of course this likely was not the intent! So why say it at all?!

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badsectoraculayesterday at 6:57 PM

> The language is intentionally neutral and apolitical, without any stance on social or political issues

TBH despite what it claims, to me it sounds like a political statement by itself.

(also it is usually the developers of a language -or other project- being judged about their actions/beliefs, not the languages/projects themselves :-P)

afavouryesterday at 8:19 PM

I'm assuming it's referring to not using terms like "slave" or "master", etc etc. There isn't quite the same parallel when talking about a hammer.

gabordemooijyesterday at 5:24 PM

I was having doubts about this too. But in today's (geo)political climate it might be useful. Otherwise I can always delete it. But you're right, it's just a hammer.

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tinfoilhatteryesterday at 8:13 PM

Seems to be a newly emerging pattern, with now at least two examples. Here's the other one I'm aware of (from the Gleam programming language homepage):

Friendly As a community, we want to be friendly too. People from around the world, of all backgrounds, genders, and experience levels are welcome and respected equally. See our community code of conduct for more.

Black lives matter. Trans rights are human rights. No nazi bullsh*t.

[1] https://gleam.run/

throw-the-towelyesterday at 6:09 PM

There's always a loud someone who'll try to force their country's political issue du jour because "everything is political".

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