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manquertoday at 1:26 AM1 replyview on HN

Is opencode that much better than Codex / Claude Code for cli tooling that people are prepared forsake[1] Sonnet 4.5/Opus 4.5 and switch to GPT 5.2-codex ?

The moat is Sonnet/Opus not Claude Code it can never be a client side app.

Cost arbitrage like this is short lived, until the org changes pricing.

For example Anthropic could release say an ultra plan at $500-$1000 with these restrictions removed/relaxed that reflects the true cost of the consumption, or get cost of inference down enough that even at $200 it is profitable for them and they will stop caring if higher bracket does not sell well, Then $200 is what market is ready to pay, there will be a % of users who will use it more than the rest as is the case in any software.

Either way the only money here i.e. the $200(or more) is only going to Anthropic.

[1] Perceived or real there is huge gulf in how Sonnet 4.5 is seen versus GPT 5.2-codex .


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threecheesetoday at 2:07 AM

The combination of Claude Code and models could be a moat of its own; they are able to use RL to make their agent better - tool descriptions, reasoning patterns, etc.

Are they doing it? No idea, it sounds ridiculously expensive; but they did buy Bun, maybe to facilitate integrating around CC. Cowork, as an example, uses CC almost as an infrastructure layer, and the Claude Agent SDK is basically LiteLLM for your Max subscription - also built on/wrapping the CC app. So who knows, the juice may be worth the RL squeeze if CC is going to be foundational to some enterprise strategy.

Also IMO OpenCode is not better, just different. I’m getting great results with CC, but if I want to use other models like GLM/Qwen (or the new Nvidia stuff) it’s my tool of choice. I am really surprised to see people cancelling their Max subscriptions; it looks performative and I suspect many are not being honest.

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