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huntaubyesterday at 7:35 PM3 repliesview on HN

Respect to your work on ZeroFS, but I find it kind of off-putting for you to come in and immediately put down JuiceFS, especially with benchmark results that don't make a ton of sense, and are likely making apples-to-oranges comparisons with how JuiceFS works or mount options.

For example, it doesn't really make sense that "92% of data modification operations" would fail on JuiceFS, which makes me question a lot of the methodology in these tests.


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selfhoster1312yesterday at 9:25 PM

I have very limited experiences with object storage, but my humble benchmarks with juicefs + minio/garage [1] showed very bad performance (i.e. total collapse within a few hours) when running lots of small operations (torrents).

I wouldn't be surprised if there's a lot of tuning that can be achieved, but after days of reading docs and experimenting with different settings i just assumed JuiceFS was a very bad fit for archives shared through Bittorrent. I hope to be proven wrong, but in the meantime i'm very glad zerofs was mentioned as an alternative for small files/operations. I'll try to find the time to benchmark it too.

[1] https://git.deuxfleurs.fr/Deuxfleurs/garage/issues/1021

eYrKEC2yesterday at 10:33 PM

I'm always curious about the of the option space. I appreciate folks talking about the alternative s. What's yours?

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Eikonyesterday at 7:39 PM

> but I find it kind of off-putting for you to come in and immediately put down JuiceFS, especially with benchmark results that don't make a ton of sense, and are likely making apples-to-oranges comparisons with how JuiceFS works or mount options.

The benchmark suite is trivial and opensource [1].

Is performing benchmarks “putting down” these days?

If you believe that the benchmarks are unfair to juicefs for a reason or for another, please put up a PR with a better methodology or corrected numbers. I’d happily merge it.

EDIT: From your profile, it seems like you are running a VC backed competitor, would be fair to mention that…

[1] https://github.com/Barre/ZeroFS/tree/main/bench

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