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Show HN: Aventos – An experiment in cheap AI SEO

16 pointsby JimsonYanglast Friday at 2:57 AM9 commentsview on HN

Hi HN, we built Aventos- a cheap way to track company mentions in LLMs.

Aventos is an experiment we're doing after spending ~6 weeks working on various projects in the AI search / GEO / AEO space.

One thing that surprised us is how most tools in this category work. Traditionally, they simulate ChatGPT or Perplexity queries by attempting to reverse engineer the search process. Over the past year, many have shifted to scraping live ChatGPT results instead, since those are signficantly cheaper and reflect more real outputs.

Building and maintaining scrapers is tedious and fragile, so recently a number of SaaS products have emerged that effectively wrap a small number of third-party ChatGPT/Perplexity/Google AIO/etc scraping APIs. What felt odd to us is that many of these still tools charge $70–$200+ per month, despite largely being wrappers around the same underlying data providers.

So we wanted to test a simple idea: if the core cost is just API usage and commodity infrastructure and software costs are lower because of AI, can we be a successful startup if we price near our costs?

What we have so far:

1. Analytics similar to other tools (tracking AI citations, AI search results, and competitor mentions)

2. Content creation features (early and still being improved)

We’d love feedback- especially from a non-marketing perspective on:

* bugs

* confusing terminology or tabs

* anything that feels hand-wavy or misleading

There’s a demo account available if you want to poke around:

username: [email protected] password: password

Happy to answer questions about what other things we've built in the space, how these tools work, etc.


Comments

n_utoday at 6:15 AM

> wrap a small number of third-party ChatGPT/Perplexity/Google AIO/etc scraping APIs

Can you explain a little bit how this works? I'm guessing the third-parties query ChatGPT etc. with queries related to your product and report how often your product appears? How do they produce a distribution of queries that is close to the distribution of real user queries?

gamegodlast Friday at 6:38 PM

I stumbled across this a few weeks ago via Google or Kagi. One problem I have with a lot of AI tooling today is that I can't tell if it's a legit product, or just a toy that somebody vibe-coded in a day. AI can easily crap out a website that looks like this.

This is all just my 2 cents, so take it with a grain of salt, but I see trust and authenticity as a huge issue (made worse by LLMs), and it's doubly so with AI-based companies because it attracts flies.

One question I have is it's not clear to me that this all just doesn't boil down to plain old SEO. Does your platform generate recommended actions on how to improve your ChatGPT ranking? (and how is that different from just improving your PageRank?)

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satvikpendemlast Friday at 6:45 PM

> many of these still tools charge $70–$200+ per month, despite largely being wrappers around the same underlying data providers

That is business. You should be charging a premium for features that companies would like to use, that's one of the first rules of B2B.

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twooclocktoday at 5:16 AM

After demo login I'm stuck at Dashboard tour modal. Can't strat tour or dismiss modal. FF on mobile.

Tried it again and somehow managed to bypass it. Site is not really mobile friendly. I understand but maybe you shoud info a potentional user somewhere?