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Opening the AWS European Sovereign Cloud

24 pointsby notmine1337last Friday at 9:23 AM30 commentsview on HN

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CalRoberttoday at 4:46 AM

It's AWS. Would it not still be subject to the CLOUD act? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CLOUD_Act

Seems like a lot of work to still have data that can be exfiltrated by the US.

whatever1today at 3:17 AM

AWS EU reports to amazon.com in the USA. They are legally obligated to provide any data the US government requests.

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piccirellotoday at 4:31 AM

> We’re gradually transitioning the AWS European Sovereign Cloud to be operated exclusively by EU citizens located in the EU. During this transition period, we will continue to work with a blended team of EU residents and EU citizens located in the EU.

I find it fascinating that the goal is to staff this exclusively with EU citizens, thereby excluding non-citizen residents of the EU.

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scalemaxxtoday at 3:20 AM

How sovereign is a data center owned by a US firm? What does sovereign mean in this context?

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guyinblackshirttoday at 3:45 AM

If Amazon is down in the US, would this work? The fact that they mention “any Amazon customer can access this” makes me think it’s intermingled / not cleanly separated and isolated from US infrastructure

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esherlast Friday at 9:28 AM

> AWS European Sovereign Cloud is located in the state of Brandenburg, Germany, and is generally available today.

Appears to be in Massen: https://www.lr-online.de/lausitz/finsterwalde/investition-in...

esherlast Friday at 9:53 AM

Commission launches market investigations on cloud computing services under the Digital Markets Act https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/ip_25_...

> Two market investigations will assess whether Amazon and Microsoft should be designated as gatekeepers for their cloud computing services, Amazon Web Services and Microsoft Azure, under the DMA, in other words whether they act as important gateways between businesses and consumers, despite not meeting the DMA gatekeeper thresholds for size, user number and market position.

esherlast Friday at 9:26 AM

Dear smart people on HN, what do you make of this? I understand most of you are US based. Is that Amazon getting ready for serious trade war, US/EU?

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