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dash2today at 11:29 AM6 repliesview on HN

I predict that in 25 years (or 50 or 100):

- human society will be even richer, more prosperous and more technologically advanced

- people will still be desperately worrying that this is a time of crisis and collapse

Let's see.


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_heimdalltoday at 12:02 PM

Wealth as we describe it today is effectively directly correlated with consumption of natural resources. Look up graphs of countries' GDP and oil consumption if you're ever curious.

If society does continue to be richer and more prosperous, and those concepts aren't somehow fundamentally redefined, continued worry about crisis or collapse seems reasonable as that wealth came at the expense of further increase the amount of resources we burn through.

ramraj07today at 12:10 PM

Part of humanity will be sure. But what about the rest?

Climate change will not kill humanity off, but its likely to cause suffering we haven’t seen since WWII (or worse).

Unfortunately I've seen a glimpse of how the bottom 50% of people (not in a developed country but globally) get by today. If one doesnt care for their suffering and their lives, its easy to confirm that the society on average (not on median) will be more prosperous. But that will more likely manifest through a few hundred trillionaires living in space and a few ten thousand billionaires who serve them with their services.

The bottom billions will likely just starve, move around desperately due to war, famine, fire and flood, turned away at closed borders, and who knows what new type of cruelty that will bubble up in the future. What do we tell them?

SCdFtoday at 12:41 PM

How does the climate crisis fold into that, or do you not think that's a problem, or do you think it's a problem with no ramifications?

qarltoday at 11:59 AM

I think most Americans agree with you. And that itself will answer where we go from here.

Let's see indeed. I'll reach out to you again each year on this date and we'll see how your prediction is holding up.

fedeb95today at 11:33 AM

if not in 25, in 26.