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BeetleByesterday at 7:07 PM1 replyview on HN

Of the three you mention, only one is the law in every public land place I've hiked.[1]

Staying on the trail is mostly a suggestion for your safety (and to preserve the area) - definitely not a law.

Ditto for loudspeakers. People often go into nature and throw concerts.

[1] OK - trails in state parks and perhaps some national parks likely have more rules. But trails in general public lands (BLM, forest, etc)? Not many.


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dparkyesterday at 7:10 PM

This is willful misreading. They specifically also said “social norms”.

This “it’s not technically illegal so it’s not a problem” sentiment is unhealthy for civil societies. I for one would like basic social norms to be respected without law-enforcement being involved.

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