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aksttoday at 12:13 PM4 repliesview on HN

I think a lot people underestimate how arbitrary some editorial decisions on wikipedia can be. Yeah perfect is the enemy of the good but imperfect is still imperfect. Can’t say I’m a fan of jj mccullough‘s opinions on some stuff but his video on wikipedia is good https://youtu.be/-vmSFO1Zfo8?si=0mS24EVODwLrPJ3T

I don’t feel as strongly as he does but ever since watching I just don’t see much value in starting with Wikipedia when researching something. He also points out how a lot content creators default to referencing it. After realising how much of history or geography YouTube is just regurgitating Wikipedia articles, it kind of ruined those kinds of videos for me, and this was before AI. So now I try spend more time reading books or listening to audiobooks on a topics I’m interested instead.

Like I still use Wikipedia for unserious stuff or checking if a book I was recommended was widely criticised or something but that’s it really.

It’s also just not a good learning resource, like if you ever wanted to study a mathematics topic, wikipedia might be one of the worst resources. Like Wikipedia doesn’t profess to be a learning resource and more a overview resource but even the examples they use sometimes are just kind of unhelpful. Here’s an example on the Fourier Transform https://youtu.be/33y9FMIvcWY?si=ys8BwDu_4qa01jso


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palatatoday at 1:43 PM

> I think a lot people underestimate how arbitrary some editorial decisions on wikipedia can be.

I think it is true for all information we consume. One of the very important skills to learn in life is to think critically. Who wrote this? When? What would be their bias?

Text is written by humans (or now sometimes LLMs), and humans are imperfect (and LLMs are worth what they are worth).

Many times Wikipedia is more than enough, sometimes it is not. Nothing is perfect, and it is very important to understand it.

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preommrtoday at 1:39 PM

I think people underestimate how arbitrary editorial decisions are for any media.

Things like PBS and Wikipedia might have biases, but idk if it's realistic to expect better.

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graemeptoday at 12:35 PM

Reading (the right) books is definitely the best way to learn about a topic, but its not great for quickly looking up random stuff. Books can spread misinformation too, from Malleus Maleficarum to Erich von Däniken.

It is useful for quickly looking up simple facts, and provides a list of sources.

The video makes some interesting criticisms. The lack of diversity is not surprising. Dominated by white, male, American's with time on their hands! how would have thought that? Its very obviously American dominated (at least the English version).

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nialv7today at 1:13 PM

> jj mccullough‘s opinions

holy heck there is so much wrong about this video. i can't believe "internet influencers" can just turn on their cameras and spew so much untruth without a care in the world...

comparatively wikipedia is imperfect, but much better than this kind of slop.

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