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MattGaiseryesterday at 3:20 PM5 repliesview on HN

There are plenty of devs who do nothing beyond taking a Jira ticket scoped by others, implementing it, and then grabbing the next ticket.

While they may not have been very successful, they did have a place.


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vereloyesterday at 3:23 PM

You’re right but i have always preferred people who can do a little more. Nothing against the socially awkward and conflict avoidant nature in many of these friends, but people who push back and fight to communicate their views and passions often got our team better outcomes than someone who just turns up and does the work they’re asked to do.

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pjmlpyesterday at 7:04 PM

Looks very robotic to me, never worked on a place where meetings and dealing with other humans wasn't part of the job.

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miavyesterday at 3:49 PM

Is this genuinely common? I’ve only ever seen that level of hand holding extended to new grad hires.

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sbrotheryesterday at 4:50 PM

I've heard this, and I've even seen it in plenty of poorly performing businesses, but I've never actually seen it in a highly performing, profitable tech company. Other than at the new grad level but it's treated as net-negative training while they learn how to build consensus and scope out work.

Not coincidentally, the places I've seen this approach to work are the same places that have hired me as a consultant to bring an effective team to build something high priority or fix a dumpster fire.

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falloutxyesterday at 9:36 PM

People gotta remember its a job just like anything else. I dont see any other profession going above and beyond so why should that be levied upon on programmers, I don't see PMs trying to understand code, CEOs trying to understand the customer more than the investor.