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imtringuedtoday at 11:09 AM1 replyview on HN

You know what's weird? You being late by 3 days and not bothering to read the comments on reddit [0], then going ahead and trying a Wine 10 patch on Wine 11. Like, what exactly did you expect?

[0] https://old.reddit.com/r/linux_gaming/comments/1qdgd73/i_mad...

Edit: Even worse, other people are finding it easier to get creative cloud to run on older wine versions [1], meaning that there are regressions in Wine that aren't being spotted.

[1] https://old.reddit.com/r/linux_gaming/comments/1qg9wgz/creat...

Edit 2: Worse yet, people aren't pirating Photoshop, they copy the files of a working activated Photoshop installation from Windows so they can run it under Wine [2].

[2] https://web.archive.org/web/20251105052117/https://forum.mat...

Edit 3: The guy who claimed to have fixed creative commons has posted an update [3], [4].

[3] https://old.reddit.com/r/linux_gaming/comments/1qgybfy/updat... [4] https://github.com/PhialsBasement/wine-adobe-installers/comm...

Seems like all you did is misrepresent basically everyone involved?


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MrPowerGamerBRtoday at 2:12 PM

> then going ahead and trying a Wine 10 patch on Wine 11. Like, what exactly did you expect?

You can copy the PR's diffs and apply it on Wine 11.0, it is not like it doesn't work or that OP patched functions that are only available in Proton.

Seeing that people actually got it to work gets me intrigued, sadly they didn't say if they actually used an official Creative Cloud license, or if they downloaded it from the web from third party sources. Because, as I said before, the installers that OP used are not the installers you normally get from Adobe. So, if you know where OP got the installers, please share. :)

Now, it could be that Proton somehow has something else that fixes the installers, or that there is a regression between Wine 10.0 and Wine 11.0 that breaks the creator's patch. But like I said in my own posts that I linked, I can't find the exact installers that OP is using. The only time I've seen similar installers was when I was downloading pirated Photoshop copies to test it out on Wine.

I won't rule out that maybe there's a regression somewhere, I've already reported regression in Wine before (some of them were even fixed, yay!): https://bugs.winehq.org/buglist.cgi?email1=winehq%40mrpowerg...

> Even worse, other people are finding it easier to get creative cloud to run on older wine versions [1], meaning that there are regressions in Wine that aren't being spotted.

I don't think it is a regression. Hear me out:

The user was installing Photoshop CC 2023 with a installer similar to OP's installer, so I suppose that the installer also installs an older Creative Cloud version.

Maybe that Creative Cloud version does not require the stubbed function, nor does it require WebView2.

To get the RECENT, downloaded right off Adobe's website Creative Cloud installer, you will need to install WebView2 on your Wine prefix and set "msedgewebview2.exe" to Windows 7 mode. This makes the Creative Cloud work up until it tries to start it, which makes it use the stubbed function.

To workaround that, you can set Creative Cloud to Windows 7 mode, because that forces a different code path in the app which does not use the stubbed function (SetThreadpoolTimerEx was only added in Windows 8). However, this makes all apps show that it is "incompatible on your system", so you can't actually install anything from it.

My own patch DOES fix Creative Cloud in Windows 10 mode, so you are able to install Photoshop directly from Wine.

However, the patch (nor OP nor my own patch) fixes Photoshop's activation. And let's not rule out that maybe it IS actually a regression.

> Worse yet, people aren't pirating Photoshop, they copy the files of a working activated Photoshop installation from Windows so they can run it under Wine [2].

I'm not sure why you think that linking MattKC's post is a "gotcha", when I explicitly linked that post on my Reddit post AND MattKC's post also says that you need to bypass activation with GenP. So you aren't activating the application in Wine, you are bypassing the activation altogether.

But maybe you didn't notice that because I've only noticed now that my markdown was broken, because I included "(archived link because MattKC's forum is down)" within the URL by mistake, so the link didn't actually work, whoops. I've fixed that now.

I never said that Photoshop doesn't work in Wine. I said that it does work as long as you bypass activation with external tools. If you are using a legitimate copy from a Windows machine, or if you installed it via CC on Wine, or if it is a pirated copy, it doesn't matter, you WILL need to bypass the activation somehow. Which is the point I made in my post.

> The guy who claimed to have fixed creative commons has posted an update

That update was made after my post, and the installers on the creator's post are STILL not the same installers that you can get downloading from Adobe.

Unless I'm missing something and these installers can ACTUALLY be downloaded from Adobe, because I couldn't find them anywhere and the ones that I get from Adobe's website are the ones that I shared the screenshots of on my Reddit post.

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Now, if you want to prove me wrong, please go ahead and try the creator's patch and try installing the Creative Cloud app, downloaded directly from Adobe's website.

I really want to be proven wrong because it would be really cool if you could get the Creative Cloud app + Photoshop working in Wine without needing external activation tools.

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