alt Hacker NewsI see this sentiment posted quite a bit, but have the publishers made any products available that would allow AI training on their works for payment? A naive approach would be to go to an online bookstore and pay $15 for every book, but then you have copyrighted content that is encrypted, that it's a violation of the DMCA to decrypt.
I assume you're expecting that they'll reach out and cut a deal with each publishing house separately, and then those publishing houses will have to somehow transfer their data over to NVIDIA. But that's a very custom set of discussions and deals that have to be struck.
I think they're going to the pirate libraries because the product they want doesn't exist.
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> I assume you're expecting that they'll reach out and cut a deal with each publishing house separately, and then those publishing houses will have to somehow transfer their data over to NVIDIA. But that's a very custom set of discussions and deals that have to be struck.
If this is the only legal way for them to train, then yes that is what they should do instead of breaking the law... just because its not easy doesn't mean piracy is fine.
Do you believe in private property rights? If the product they want doesn't exist then they're shit out of luck and they must either make one or wait for one to get made. You're arguing that it's okay for them to break the law because doing business legally is really inconvenient.
That would be the end of discussion if we lived in a world governed by the rule of law but we're repeatedly reminded that we don't.
That's not relevant went it comes to copyright law. The copyright holder has the sole legal right to decide how the work is distributed.
If it isn't distributed in a manner to your liking, the only legal thing you can do is not have a copy of it at all.
Hmm, didn't Anthropic buy a bunch of used books (like, physical ones), scanned them, and then destroyed them? If Anthropic can do that, surely can NVIDIA
The product i want doesnt exist too. But if I pirate, straight to Alcataraz I go.
Perhaps because authors don't want their content to be used for this purpose? Because Microsoft refuses to give me a copy of the source code to Windows to 'inspire' my vibe-coded OS, Windowpanes 12, of which I will not give microsoft a single cent of revenue, its acceptable for me to pirate it? Someone doesn't want to sell me their work, so I'm justified in stealing it?