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lo_zamoyskiyesterday at 7:53 PM3 repliesview on HN

> It seems like the lesson we keep learning, no matter the proxy we use for intelligence, is that there is nothing that fundamentally sets humans apart from other animals

Except it doesn't show that.

The reason people make this judgement is because they don't have a coherent or clear definition of "intelligence". Nothing has been undermined, except in those who took the view that animals are dumb automatons. That's more of a legacy of modernism and the desire to gain "mastery over nature" more than anything else.

The essential feature of human beings - from which the rest of human nature and its consequences follow, including our social nature - is rationality. This entails an intellect, which is the abstracting faculty. It is the intellect that makes language possible, because without the capacity to abstract from particulars, we could not have universal concepts and thus no predicates. Language would be reduced to the kind we see in other animals.

For clarity, the functions of language are:

1. expressive: expressing an internal state or emotion (e.g., a cry of pain)

2. signaling: use of expressive to cause a reaction in others (e.g., danger signals)

3. descriptive: beyond immediate sensation; describes states of affairs, allowing for true or false statements

4. argumentative: allows critical analysis, inference, and rational justification

Without abstraction, (3) and (4) are impossible. But all animal activity we have observed requires no appeal to (3) and (4). Non-human animals perceive objects and can manipulate them, even in very clever ways, but they do not have concepts (which are expressed as general names).

Could there be other rational animals in the universe? Sure. But we haven't met any. And from an ontological POV (as opposed to a phylogenetic taxonomic classification), they would be human, as the ontological definition of "human being" - "rational animal" - would apply them.


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tjoffyesterday at 8:04 PM

Not sure if it qualifies but even bees have a dance that describes the direction, distance and quantity of nectar.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waggle_dance

Feels like a lot of animals just lack ability to articulate. Which might evolve if they had a need but feels like an chicken-and-egg problem more than anything?

ksymphyesterday at 8:08 PM

Perhaps ironically, I am having trouble distilling your abstractions into concrete concepts.

A dog or chimpanzee can easily understand conceptual ideas such as 'walk', 'play', 'food', and so on, even through language. Not to say humans don't process these in different ways, and are able to manipulate them as abstract concepts as other species generally cannot, but in isolation it seems the fundamental principles can be widely accessed. What sort of test might you propose that demonstrates the difference you describe?