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kshri24yesterday at 8:12 PM3 repliesview on HN

You really don't need ANY study to know the obvious thing that tariffs are taxes on imports. It is being paid by Americans from DAY 1. The only difference being American Companies were taking the brunt of it all and it is now obvious that they cannot keep swallowing it and will eventually pass it on to the American consumers.

It is crazy that so many in US STILL think tariffs are being paid for by exporting countries.

US is sabotaging itself and pushing in the same "New World Order" that the right-wing conspiracy nuts kept warning about but ironically have been instrumental in accelerating it themselves anyways.

Or maybe that was the design all along. To not go out in a whimper but with a big bang.

If I were the Democrats, I would do nothing and just let the US admin destroy whatever little credibility it has left on the World stage... thereby securing mid-terms and the next Presidential elections.


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wolvoleoyesterday at 9:29 PM

> If I were the Democrats, I would do nothing and just let the US admin destroy whatever little credibility it has left on the World stage... thereby securing mid-terms and the next Presidential elections.

Not a great idea. The US will have lost a lot of political goodwill by then. And given up a lot of geopolitical status and influence. The devices will be back in the saddle but have to resort to really unpopular measures to clean up the mess, basically guaranteeing a republican win afterwards.

And some credibility and influence will never recover. The rest of the world will remember there can always be another trump. And they will have switched to (and restarted) local industries. Once those are running there's no incentive to look at US ones again. And any geopolitical influence that was lost will already have been filled by other players who will entrench themselves.

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hypeateiyesterday at 8:37 PM

> It is crazy that so many in US STILL think tariffs are being paid for by exporting countries.

They knew it was a lie then, and they know it's one now. A plurality of voters want what's happening currently, they're not crazy, it's just a mix of xenophobia, isolationism, and inbreeding.

danarisyesterday at 9:51 PM

The problem with that last is that if the Democrats do nothing, there's a very real chance that Trump deploys the military to either prevent the midterms from happening, or to force their outcome to be what he wants.

(Of course, if they do something there's still a chance he does that—they have to do the right thing and they have to do it well to reduce the chances by much!)

There's also that pesky matter of, y'know, their constituents. Who are getting bled dry by the stagflation that's happening.