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rwmjyesterday at 4:30 PM10 repliesview on HN

It goes to nearly zero if China invades Taiwan, and that seems like it has at least a 10% chance of happening in the next year or two.


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toephu2yesterday at 6:30 PM

It doesn't goto nearly zero. TSMC has a large fab in Arizona and they are continuing to expand it. They also have a fab in Washington, and in Japan. [1]

[1]https://www.tsmc.com/english/aboutTSMC/TSMC_Fabs

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fkargyesterday at 4:36 PM

I agree. It's funny that this is one of the cited reason for the (relative) value suppression of tsmc, but the same factors should apply to Nvidia too.

eagerpaceyesterday at 4:52 PM

Going to zero is one potential outcome. Equally plausible is it goes up 10% in a relatively quick battle or diplomatic outcome which ends the geopolitical uncertainty.

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khalicyesterday at 4:45 PM

Idk the pro china side is getting more and more support, at this rate they’ll vote themselves into mainland

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aleccoyesterday at 7:11 PM

I think they are already hedging for Taiwan. 1. They just pseudo-acquired Groq, fully made in USA (GlobalFoundries) and with a diversified supply chain. 2. And they just announced they will be re-introducing RTX 3090 made in Korea (Samsung). 3. And they plan to produce chips in Intel's new US fabs soon.

I think the bigger problems of the AI bubble are energy and that it's gaining a terrible reputation for being the excuse for mass layoffs while suffocating the Internet with slop/brainrot content. All while depending on government funding to grow.

utopiahyesterday at 4:38 PM

But then again what won't? Non tech stocks?

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fullsharkyesterday at 5:04 PM

What does the US gov't do in response? Wouldn't they throw globs of money at Intel and Nvidia?

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idiotsecantyesterday at 11:55 PM

China invading Taiwan makes zero sense, they just flex those muscles for domestic consumption. They will probably take over Taiwan, but they'll do it how modern major powers do anything: propaganda, influence campaigns, and soft power.

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heathrow83829yesterday at 5:39 PM

but they're expected to have 8 or 9 aircraft carriers by 2035, doesn't it make sense to wait until then?

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bpodgurskyyesterday at 4:43 PM

NVIDIA has been producing Blackwell in Arizona since October. Don't be dramatic.

There would be a supply crunch but a lot of dollars will be shuffled VERY fast to ramp up production.

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