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OrvalWintermuteyesterday at 4:48 PM7 repliesview on HN

The Euros also underfunded their defense obligations and received huge amounts of US investment in facilities, enabling them to upfund social programs, socialized healthcare and most egregiously 8 - 12 week vacations which are completely unheard of in the US.


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jacquesmyesterday at 4:51 PM

You are spending too much time in an echo chamber if you think that those things that are unheard of in the US could not have been done in the US. They could have been, but it would have required a different kind of path than you chose.

The EU has chosen to try to cooperate rather than to be at war all the time and it looks like that may have been a wrong bet but that is mostly because first one (Russia) and now another (USA) party have reneged on the deals that were in place.

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messetoday at 10:12 AM

> socialized healthcare

So why does the US spend more per capita on healthcare than the EU?

melingyesterday at 5:11 PM

Who has 8 week vacations, let alone 12? No European country I’m aware of, but I didn’t check all…

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drawfloatyesterday at 5:23 PM

They’re unheard of in Europe too, you’ve read too many internet comments and lost touch with reality.

benterixyesterday at 5:01 PM

> The Euros also underfunded their defense obligations and received huge amounts of US investment in facilities, enabling them to upfund social programs, socialized healthcare and most egregiously 8 - 12 week vacations which are completely unheard of in the US.

It's hard to detect sarcasm through the screen but in case you're being serious and just repeat what Trump says, he does this because Americans are not stupid and are asking, why Europeans can enjoy free healthcare, education and 4-week holidays and we cant? The answer "because we sponsored them" makes no sense but finds fertile ground in the hearts of some people.

carefulfungiyesterday at 6:32 PM

If this were true, and if you want to give credit to Trump for EU defense spending increases, then (1) why is Trump asking for a dramatic increase in US military funding and (2) when will the US savings on defending the EU be spent on US workers?

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justin66yesterday at 5:15 PM

We would fund nationwide health care and more robust social programs if it weren't for all the money we are spending on defense is simply not something the US right-wing and centrists ever put out there. When they fought those things it was with the ideological argument that they were intrinsically wrong. OMG Socialism!