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echelonyesterday at 5:34 PM2 repliesview on HN

> This is sanewashig this whole thing.

This was being called back during the Biden admin and before Trump even ran again.

Back during the Obama admin, even!

https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/new-atlanticist/no-piv...

https://www.gisreportsonline.com/r/us-pivot-asia/

https://www.project-syndicate.org/commentary/europe-biggest-...

If the US can't build strong coalitions with Europe, it wants to spend its energy elsewhere.

Even pop-geopolitik wonk Peter Zeihan was pointing this out during Covid. I can't find his videos, but this has been top of mind for a lot of people for a very long time. These are anti-Trump people, too.

Multipolarity means instability, violence, fights over resources, fights over trade. Post-WWII was unusually (relatively) stable.

The US can turtle up, just like it did before WWII. It doesn't share a land border with any other major powers, unlike European and Asian countries. It commands the two oceans on its sides (and soon Arctic), and doesn't need anyone else - this was the US' defense posture since its founding.


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renewiltordyesterday at 5:39 PM

You’re right. It was in the book Disunited Nations by Zeihan.

RealityVoidyesterday at 5:53 PM

Honestly, the idea of Trump making geopolitically informed decisions is so out of the realm of my perception of reality I don't even know how to engage with you. Trump is a narcissistic idiot that you voted into power. Your geopolitical direction is dictated by his narcissistic whims. "National security reasons Greenland" or "EU collaboration with China" or whatever is exactly what I initially said - sane washing a lunatic.

But, anyway, good luck. You'll need it.

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