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crazygringoyesterday at 8:53 PM4 repliesview on HN

Based on just this article, it seems far most likely to me that it was a place to hide during an attack.

> And while three brave explorers in the 21st century once spent 48 hours in an erdstall, crawling to new sections whenever oxygen became scarce, it seems unlikely that they would have been constructed as hiding places, even temporary ones. Though they could have provided refuge for a small family, why would they be accessed from such public spaces?

I don't see why a whole bunch of people couldn't have hidden in them for several hours during an attack/raid? A hiding spot sufficiently known to a few, just big enough. And then it makes perfect sense the entrance would be in some central public place.

> The lack of exits is a further strike against this theory—if enemies became aware of such a tunnel being used as shelter, it would quickly become a death trap for its inhabitants.

Which would contribute to their extreme secrecy. And the loops and dead ends and narrow spots make it all the harder for attackers to pursue you even if they find it.

> Besides, in either of these cases, one would expect at least some goods to have been left behind—remnants of food or clothing, cached or dropped valuables. Instead, there is nothing.

If they were intended for hiding for just a few hours, since oxygen would run out anyways, it makes sense for nothing to be left in there. You rush in and come back out when the raiders have moved on. Clothing was valuable, you weren't going to leave your shawl behind.


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alwayesterday at 10:18 PM

Indeed: that would help reconcile the presumed secrecy with the fact that, also per the article, there are upwards of 2000 of these tunnel-structures that fall into this category. All across Central Europe. Aggressor knows THAT there's likely a safe-tunnel, but doesn't know exactly WHERE the safe-tunnel is, and whether it's worth taking the time to find...

For that matter—A place to stash the kids from the census-taker and the harvest from the tax man? Tuck them away, just for that day, once every so often, and pull them out afterward?

Or knowledge privileged to some specific order, whose representatives are geographically widespread but sparse within a given community?

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tim-tdayyesterday at 10:22 PM

No way I’d hide in a hole without another exit. And if I went to the trouble to dig a hidey- hole I’d prepare it with a jug of water and a snack.

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sleepyguytoday at 12:04 AM

Most likely for woman and children to hide as a last resort, the men would be tasked with defense. Hence the size of the tunnels and the narrow connections. The fact there was nothing found in them could mean they were never needed and not used

IAmBroomyesterday at 9:16 PM

There's zero reason to expect remnants of food, as well. It was not shelf(tunnel)-stable.

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