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Imustaskforhelptoday at 1:07 PM3 repliesview on HN

I really like this idea but I have a few questions.

Suppose I am an indian developer interested to work with European Data sovereignity because imo I value privacy personally just as much as the EU population and it would be great to be more connected and wishing to connect with them more.

So I have thought of using EU options in my servers/services if I use them for the most part and I can even swap out to completely European if need be.

So let's say to be a part of this? should I be an European company? If so, I even looked at it on how to establish a company in Europe rather easily (preferably a lean company) and It seems that Estonia seems the best way for me to create an EU company from my country without too much hassle but the costs of operation does feel like a lot for just starting out let's say.

I am also not sure about the fact that given I live in India, Some data sharing arrangement can be generated or would I have to actually migrate to say EU (which although I love EU, I currently appreciate my country as well and migration is a hassle right now)

I wish if such a manifesto could work for India and EU and a deeper integration could be made between the two countries about such tech related software or other as I have been a vocal supporter of European tech providers like hetzner,ovh etc. and they are even cheaper than american hyperscalers in many/most cases.


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kevin061today at 1:14 PM

I think you will probably find great difficulty.

When I worked at AWS, there was GovCloud, and only American citizens residing in American soil and connecting from American soil were able to give support to these customers. So even if you were legally authorised to work in the US and resided in the US, you couldn't work with GovCloud customers.

Or if you are an American temporarily residing in Romania or Canada, then you also can't work with GovCloud customers.

I expect the same situation will happen to you. But I am just speculating.

A European sovereign cloud is desperately needed for highly sensitive government, military, and national security workloads, and these must be thoroughly vetted to ensure compliance.

But for anything else, like personal e-mail or e-commerce? I'm sure there will be a lot of flexibility for non-European contributions, but it will probably be like it currently is: open source projects spanning the globe.

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josephgtoday at 1:13 PM

At its heart, this is about Europe for Europe. People from other countries “contributing” technology solutions to European businesses and government is what got Europe into the strange mess they’re in now. And there’s been a long line of foreign - American - businesses which have promised that European data will always stay on European soil. And it’s quite clear that promise was not always kept.

I’m sure your desire to help is genuine. But Europe might need to find their own feet with an initiative like this before accepting help from foreigners.

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cess11today at 2:13 PM

With permits and fees and accounting assistance you'd probably land around 1500 per year having a OÜ company in Estonia. If you aren't going to make more than that I don't really see the point of having a company, you might as well save up that amount in cash and hold it in case you personally become liable from whatever activity you want to do.

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