Exactly but it has to be recognized as such. It’s easy to fall into self delusion and make it into some “oh yeah this will be collapse of the US empire, finally” story.
Not, that it also fun to go with that story, but as long as everyone in the room understands it’s sort of a wishful fantasy.
We might, in hindsight, see this as the first signs of the fall but anyone expecting a global empire to just collapse like a building, even in the accelerated pace of the modern world, is going to be disappointed.
This will take years, possibly a decade or more...if the US is, in fact, collapsing.