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bri3dyesterday at 9:43 PM0 repliesview on HN

I've seen the Intel bare-metal stuff in enough automotive products to call it extant in the wild; I've only heard of it being used in video arcade stuff so maybe I was misinformed there.

Anyway, I think we're both on the same page regardless that TPM and hardware root of trust are not the same thing. In some configurations TPM can (weakly) attest that the hardware root of trust is present, but it doesn't actually do any hardware trust root, and that looks architecturally very similar on x86 to how it looks anywhere else (mask ROM verifies a second bootloader against RTL or manufacturing fused chipmaker public key hash, second bootloader measures subsequent material against OEM fused key hash, and so it goes).