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ApolloFortyNinetoday at 5:00 PM8 repliesview on HN

>Solar prices in the US are criminal, protecting oil and gas who bought all the politicians. >Canada here. 7.6kw on our roof for $0 out of pocket thanks to $5k grant and $8k interest free loan.

This very well may be true, but taken at face value Canada seems to be paying you around $7k to install solar panels on your roof (that's 8k interest free loan is losing out to inflation + any interest it would have earned).

Definitely a great deal if you own a home, if I was a renter/condo owner I'd be annoyed that everyone is subsidizing your free solar however.


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embedding-shapetoday at 5:18 PM

> Definitely a great deal if you own a home, if I was a renter/condo owner I'd be annoyed that everyone is subsidizing your free solar however.

What kind of selfish point of view is this? Don't you want people to use energy sources that are better for our entire world, even if it costs you like $10 more in taxes per year? Seems like a no brainer deal if you like "the outside" and you want it to still be there.

I'm a renter, been all my life, I'd be happy to pay more in taxes if it means more solar panels for everyone except me. But I also feel the same about elder care, health care and a bunch of other things, do you feel the same for those things too, or this is specifically about solar or owning vs renting?

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pimeystoday at 5:58 PM

In Germany you are allowed to install solar to your balcony as a renter.

henry2023today at 5:19 PM

> if I was a renter/condo owner I'd be annoyed that everyone is subsidizing your free solar however.

You probably wouldn’t. I hear more people complaining about hypothetical government spending than actual government spending.

testing22321today at 5:14 PM

> if I was a renter/condo owner I'd be annoyed that everyone is subsidizing your free solar however.

As a non car owner are you annoyed everyone gets subsidized roads?

Are you annoyed corn farmers get subsidies for growing corn?

Would you be annoyed if people got subsidized life saving health care?

It feels like the US can’t have nice things because people are hell bent on others not having nice things.

What a shame.

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matthewdgreentoday at 5:24 PM

If you're a renter/condo then you're probably getting excess solar generation delivered to you from homeowners with nearby solar roofs. So presumably there is some benefit to you in terms of cheap generation.

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epolanskitoday at 7:35 PM

Your last argument could apply to anything really.

Why should I subsidize farmers if they can't compete?

Why do I have subsidize our own manufacturing companies if they can't compete so their workers have a job, at my expense?

Why do I need to subsidize car owners to have yet another lane but can't get a decent train instead?

Here in Poland suddenly all miners pretend to be subsidized by the state, even if they work for private companies.

Why do I need to subsidize them if the companies they work for can't turn a profit, or when they did for decades chose to pay dividends and do buybacks instead of investing? And now I pay the bill?

I mean, at some point you need to cope with the fact that money has to be spent and circulate in some fashion to promote economic activity and projects.

You could argue that subsidizing solar brings energy prices down in any case.

kwanbixtoday at 5:20 PM

Yeah, truly awful. Unlimited electricity that barely contaminates, and at the lowest possible cost for everyone. Just terrible.

Zigurdtoday at 5:03 PM

Be less annoyed because utility demand declines.

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