alt Hacker NewsSeems like (according to the author) whatever docker is doing it is a sign of their immediate demise and everyone on HN is cheering for the company to go down in flames no matter what.
The tech is open source and free forever - thats somehow a problem? The company monitised enterprise features, while keeping core and hub free - also a problem? Is exploring AI tools, like everyone else is? should they not? should they just stay stagnant? Has made hardened images free instead of making that a premium feature only for people in banks? - and monitising SLAs, how is that a problem?
Docker is still maintaining the runtime on which orbstack, podman etc are all using, and all the cloud providers are using, but apparently at the same time Docker is deeply irrelevant and should not make money - while all of us on HN with well paid tech jobs get to have high thoughts on their every move to pay their employees and investors...
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> Docker is still maintaining the runtime on which orbstack, podman
Podman? Podman appears to have reimplemented basically everything. What runtime are you talking about?
to the respondants above - you are right - that lacked nuance
Look at the maintainer lists of containerd and moby, which are used by loads of others, several docker employees on those lists - I didn't check what their amount of involvement is compared to other companies, nor whether they are even sanctioned by docker to do the work, but afaik those projects came out of OCI with Docker as one of the primary backers.
Not really, rancher, containerd, podman don't depend on Docker other than offering a compatibility layer for tools that expect talking to the real Docker.
> The tech is open source and free forever - thats somehow a problem? The company monitised enterprise features, while keeping core and hub free - also a problem?
Docker Desktop, among other things, is not open source and is not free.
Open Core is not something that people who care about software freedoms engage in. It’s what proprietary software makers engaging in open source cosplay do.
I agree with a lot of the above, but then there's:
> Docker is still maintaining the runtime on which orbstack, podman etc are all using, and all the cloud providers are using
I need to fact check that one. runc was donated by Docker to OCI a while back. And containerd was created under the CNCF from a lot of Docker code and ideas. podman is sitting on the RedHat containers stack, which has their own code base. Docker itself uses runc and containerd, and so do most Kubernetes deployments. Many of these tools go to containerd directly without deploying the Docker engine.