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billy99kyesterday at 6:17 PM14 repliesview on HN

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yksyesterday at 6:37 PM

How about this: no masks, no weapons (if they feel they are in danger they can call the cops who already have more weapons than they possibly need). Every time a citizen is detained in jail, detaining agent and their manager lose their paycheck for that period. Family with kids jailed and separated? No paycheck. You know, do it in the Christian compassionate way, not in the shooting single moms way.

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asveikauyesterday at 6:55 PM

They sold us on a lie about the extent of the illegal immigrant "problem". It's numerically impossible to make the promises they made and not deport people who it's hard to argue should be deported.

Immigrants also commit crimes at fewer rates than US born people and crime is at all time lows. Yet they sold us for years on a crime moral panic and phantom "migrant crime".

So you said, propose a solution that also involves deporting people, and I will say NO. You are wanting to target a mostly fake problem.

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halfmatthalfcatyesterday at 6:36 PM

The US cannot afford, demographically, to curtail immigration, illegal or otherwise. Simple fact is the US needs more people because we’re under the replacement rate.

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sosomoxieyesterday at 6:21 PM

Yeah I'm against ICE and I don't want any immigrants deported.

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hackable_sandyesterday at 11:32 PM

Deporting people is cringe

trentearlyesterday at 6:30 PM

The alternative is better trained officers with more accountability.

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paulryanrogersyesterday at 6:47 PM

Most of these people didn't protest ICE under Biden and Obama, who both deported more than Trump 1. That's because we see a difference in how illegal migrants were prioritized (violent offenders first) and treated (more humanely) then compared to now. And how citizen protests were handled then and now.

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bigyabaiyesterday at 6:21 PM

For me, it's the summary execution of US citizens that gives me pause.

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lawnyesterday at 6:25 PM

You're wrong, simple as that.

therobots927yesterday at 6:26 PM

You’re right. We should throw away the constitution so we can deport.. (checks notes) 600,000 undocumented immigrants, only 5% of which have committed a violent crime.

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mindslightyesterday at 6:27 PM

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thunderforkyesterday at 6:23 PM

Forced movement is cringe, actually

HNisCISyesterday at 7:20 PM

You're right, maybe calling people "illegal" is just shitty and we should be the welcoming county we were taught about on history class.