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pibakeryesterday at 9:39 PM6 repliesview on HN

Edit: someone down this thread pointed out the answer is likely written by AI. If you copy the whole post from GP into ChatGPT it will give you an answer very similar to the post I am replying to.

> Shinkansen lines are completely separate from conventional rail: no level crossings, no shared tracks, no freight, and no interaction with slower services.

Not true.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYol11bVoNw

https://ameblo.jp/nakamurapon943056/entry-12488005292.html

> but they still tend to interact more with legacy rail networks and inherit more constraints.

Spanish high speed trains mostly run on their own tracks because of gauge differences. France and Germany are the ones who actually runs high speed trains on old tracks, a lot.

It is surprising how many upvotes you can get on the internet just by glazing the Japanese.


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m4rtinkyesterday at 10:50 PM

There are some lines that were originally built as regular narrow gauge railways and later converted to standard gauge supporting Shinkansen trainsets.

This is called Mini-Shinkansen: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mini-Shinkansen

This comes with limitations, as the maximum track speed on these converted lines is apparently around 130 km/h.

None of the actual Shinkansen stadard lines have level crossings.

frutigeryesterday at 10:03 PM

The answer was almost certainly generated by an LLM.

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ronsoryesterday at 9:55 PM

"thing; thing, Japan" is a meme for a reason. I was wondering how long it would take to appear in this thread.

qiqitoriyesterday at 10:50 PM

That's nitpicking, IMO. It's still 99% true. There are just two "Mini-Shinkansen" lines, they only run once or twice per hour, are shorter than non-Mini-Shinkansen, and only a relatively short part (distance-wise) of their journey is spent on the slow tracks. There are non-Shinkansen trains on the Mini-Shinkansen portion of their journey, but not very many. (Also the word "shinkansen" implies new tracks.)

baud147258yesterday at 11:51 PM

> France and Germany are the ones who actually runs high speed trains on old tracks, a lot.

At least in France, high speed trains on older tracks won't go as fast as on the dedicated high speed tracks

bjourneyesterday at 11:59 PM

> Short answer: Japan treats high-speed rail as a tightly controlled system, not just fast trains on tracks.

Is exactly what a text bot would say. Eloquent, but when you think about it, is just nonsense. Which operator treats HSR as "fast trains on tracks" and which does not treat it is a "tightly controlled system"?