alt Hacker NewsOver 36,500 killed in Iran's deadliest massacre, documents reveal
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That's crazy.
That's like ~40% of the deaths in the current gaza war, except over just 2 days instead of 2 years.
For comparison, estimates of the 1989 Tiananmen Square massacre death count are usually put in the 300-1,000 range by journalists and human rights groups.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1989_Tiananmen_Square_protests...
How is this possible without explosives? Even with vehicle mounted machine guns it seems like a crazy high number. Did the protestors get boxed in somehow? And across so many locations, that seems to require a crazy amount of coordination to kill so many in so little time.
This is certainly the end of peaceful Iranian protests. Whether it leads to a violent revolution or a static police state like North Korea remains to be seen.
Who designed this abomination of website? The "infinite" scroll is preventing me to get to the footer links.
The internet is fragile. Access can be so easily cut off for the masses in dire times.
The source is certainly unreliable, a quick scan of the wiki sources give you that:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_International
But does the number even matter? Whether its 4000 or 35000 the conduct has been unacceptable.
The real question is the solution, is reporting like this designed to be used as the backdrop to foreign intervention? How many people will be killed then?
"one death is a tragedy, a million is a statistic" - Not Stalin
He’s talking his book
flat out fake news zionist bullshit.
hm, I think we should re-evaluate sanctioning or civilian pressure campaigns, since the guise is for them to coax or turn on the government for regime change, but the government can just hire mercenaries from outside the country.
don't know a solution but this one isn't it
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brought to you by unbiased quality sources on par with those which claimed WMD in Iraq... /s
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One person dies to ICE, the whole country is in outrage; 37k people massacred in cold blood - barely a peep.
I hate how irrational our species is and how unempathetic we are to situations not immediately in front of us.
And Trump should not have promised assistance. How many more people are dead because they were encouraged by said promise? Some of these deaths can surely be attributed to him.
I can't comprehend how a population can kill that many of their own people. They aren't even an "other" people, which has been the most common scapegoat lately. Same skin color, same religion, same language, same homeland.
I don't believe these numbers.
This is not a comment of support of the Iranian regime, or against the people of Iran to have which ever government they see fit.
But these numbers are simply not credible. It's 40 beheaded babies all over again.
Remember the governing ideology of the US and Israel sees the continued existence of Iran as an existential threat. Their aims may align with the protestors temporarily but I think a permanently fractured, Syria type situation is much more palatable to them than a rapid transition to a more democratic system that leaves the country intact. There is no guarantee a post-islamic Iran would step into line, and it would remain a regional power that would be much harder to justify continued sanctions against.
A part of me suspects the incredibly conspicuous endorsement of the protestors by the US/Israel regime is an attempt to discredit them. A zombie regime under the Mullahs will likely to continue to implode economically, which means they are less able to defend themselves from US/Israeli attacks in the future. A clean change of government with domestic US pressure to lift sanctions would be their nightmare scenario.
Take a good look US, because once you're down far enough the fascist drain, that's the cost of trying to claw your way back out. And there's no hope of external intervention given nuclear arms
Should this be flagged? I was told HN is not a place for politics and that "if it's on the news, it's not for HN".
Or does that logic only apply to US-based developments?
Sad that the left and US college students are ignoring the realities on the ground here. Qatar too. Just read the rag Al Jazeera
This is depressing because we will go to war over this and it’s going to be five years before people realizing they were tricked by “babies in incubators” propaganda.
The source (Iran International) is backed by Saudi money and has a bias to dunk on Iran.
That said, I'm sure the death count numbers from the Rasht Massacre are staggeringly higher than the initial tallies of 2-5k.