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JuniperMesostoday at 12:59 AM2 repliesview on HN

If it was actually a terrible place the illegal immigrants would leave on their own volition and it wouldn't be necessary to have federal police find them and forcibly arrest and deport them.


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cthalupatoday at 2:23 AM

The US can be both a terrible place and yet also better than other places that are more terrible.

I would like to hold my country to higher standards than "Eh, it's better than oppressive regimes where people get murdered for political dissent."

Unfortunately, the events we're seeing in MN may show that we're in danger of even that standard being too high for us.

tomberttoday at 1:16 AM

I think that's a bit reductive. There are plenty of economic, political, or familial reasons for not leaving.

Many people are trying to evade oppressive regimes where their prospects might literally mean death. The US can still be "terrible" while still not being quite as dangerous as that.

I mean, this kind of reads victim-blamey; hyperbolic example, when a person stays with an abusive partner for much longer than they should, does that imply that that relationship isn't terrible?