> proved they'd rather have an empty piece of ice / dirt, than our friendship and protection

I think I need to leave Hacker News soon. It has become MAGA territory

> Europe is far more aligned with Russia than they are against. Both sides have the same goal. Russia is killing swaths of European men, and that's about it. Ukraine is killing swaths of European men. The territorial control doesn't explain the war. The killing is the purpose.

By this logic Japan was aligned with USA during WW2, because both sides were killing people.

> proved they'd rather have an empty piece of ice / dirt, than our friendship and protection

> Europe is far more aligned with Russia than they are against

This does not follow.

What are you on about. We had a great thing going until your (Assuming this is a US person speaking and not a Russian or other troll bot) president started breaking that relationship down. We never threatened to "shoot first" lol, we simply responded to the threat of having Greenland taken by force.

Our relationship has been deteriorating because it was very clear that the US was not behaving like the ally they said they were.

> The fact that Europe unified against the US, threatening to shoot first…

Oh, bullshit.

They threatened to shoot back if invaded.

> threatening to take this essentially worthless piece of land

Is North Dakota worthless land? Is Hawaii? Willing to hand them over?

What the hell is the point of an ally if it's seizing territory from you.

> While the US was seizing Russian oil tankers

The US, under Trump, also bombed and sanctioned Iran, a major ally of Russia and supplier of drones and drone parts, and kidnapped Maduro, their staunchest ally in the Western Hemisphere, and tariffed countries buying Russian energy, and seized an actual Russian-flagged (not "shadow") tanker, despite it having a submarine escort--something Europe would never have the will to do.

> Europe is far more aligned with Russia than they are against

Also note the shift by Canada and Europe to trade more with China. Obviously some trade with China is unavoidable, but seeing them running into the arms of Beijing is quite unexpected, given that China is the single largest consumer of Russian energy exports, and in turn supplies Russia with various restricted, "dual use" components for their drone and other munitions programs, along with vital intelligence for launching strikes in Ukraine.