In the US, the 8th Amendment prohibits cruel and unusual punishment, which courts have interpreted again and again as requiring that punishment be proportionate to the conduct. Weems v. United States (1910), for example, struck down a 15-year hard-labor sentence for a man who engaged in criminal fraud.

Do you think Alex Pretti or Renee Good deserved 15 years of hard labor for disobeying ICE? How about just five years? Because what actually happened was they were executed on the spot.

There is no FAFO exception in the US Constitution.

We’re not sure what your point is. “Things of a similar nature have happened in the past” is not a particularly strong argument.

> In every state of the US (and most countries), people disobeying law enforcement will die. If you want to live, you comply, and you fight in court.

This is naked bootlicking. You only support it because you view it as “your team” or “your tribe” and do not feel threatened by it. Tables turn in time. Maybe you are not old or wise or well-read enough to recognize that.

Normalizing state-sanctioned extra-judicial murder along with a message of compliance? Maybe go find videos of where compliance got people killed because the fact is the slave catchers enjoy brutality and murder.

> In every state of the US (and most countries), people disobeying law enforcement will die. If you want to live, you comply, and you fight in court.

This is one of the worst takes I have ever seen, to the point that you must just be trolling.

Disobeying law enforcement is not a death sentence. It is often not even illegal. Just because LEO shouts "I am giving you a lawful order" does not in fact make it a lawful order. And this certainly is not happening in most other countries.

The desire to be part of the Trump Tribe has made people forget what actually made America great.