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dataviz1000yesterday at 3:56 PM16 repliesview on HN

It isn't so much as the rest of the world having easy access. It is what the Chinese want the rest of the world to see. If you are in a South American country using a residential IP in new incognito session, doom scroll, after the initial disturbing content, you will start to notice videos of the United States government physically attacking people born in the country of the residential IP address.

The TikTok algorithm in South America. Content about Tiananmen Square and Tibet gets filtered out. Content about the United States government rolling through protesters in armored vehicles, killing people in Venezuela with bombs, and threatening Greenland, straight to top of feed.

The most brutally honest propaganda is always the most effective propaganda.


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elektronikayesterday at 5:53 PM

> Content about Tiananmen Square and Tibet gets filtered out. Content about the United States government rolling through protesters in armored vehicles, killing people in Venezuela with bombs, and threatening Greenland, straight to top of feed.

There's also the degree of relevance. Tiananmen was over a quarter of a century ago. The USA is killing protestors, bombing Venezuela, threatening Greenland now.

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parthdesaiyesterday at 5:29 PM

Does China go around the world invading countries in the name of freedom?

> Content about the United States government rolling through protesters in armored vehicles, killing people in Venezuela with bombs, and threatening Greenland, straight to top of feed.

None of this is propaganda, it's just facts.

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Fraterkesyesterday at 5:18 PM

You don’t think that there could be purely organic reasons why content showing US hypocricy might be immensely popular in South America?

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axusyesterday at 5:19 PM

> Content about the United States government rolling through protesters in armored vehicles, killing people in Venezuela with bombs, and threatening Greenland, straight to top of feed.

Aren't these recent events? A better example would be showing US atrocities from the last 50 years, but not Chinese.

Or hiding the suffering of Ukranian and Iranian peoples.

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Joeriyesterday at 7:05 PM

On mastodon, with the non-algorithmic feed, following mostly accounts that aren’t particularly political, those things are still at the top of the feed. If you’re not seeing those topics at the top of your feed you’re probably being misled by your algorithm.

Another reason why feed ranking algorithms should be published. If we can see the algorithm we can stop playing these yes/no games. The real enemies are social media companies, not the other side of politics.

mktk1001yesterday at 9:15 PM

I think the more concerning thing here is the US government attacking people of different ethnicities.

weinzierlyesterday at 7:38 PM

I'm confused. I thought there was Douyin in China and TikTok for the rest of the world. TikTok used to be under Chinese control but now is essentially under US control. Isn't western TikTok a single entity?

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tech_hutchyesterday at 5:57 PM

> the United States government rolling through protesters in armored vehicles

I'm sorry, did I miss something? Is this something that's happened (ever)?

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WheatMillingtonyesterday at 7:01 PM

I see people saying this a lot, but I've also seen videos demonstrating that you can easily post and search for Tiananmen Square content. I don't use Tiktok myself but it seems like this is basically untrue.

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lbritoyesterday at 5:13 PM

That's some very obtuse thinking.

The US has been applying soft power and hard power in South America - to put it euphemistically, as the most recent US intervention was just days ago - for close to a century. The Chinese... haven't.

Why should people in South America give a shit about Tiananmen or Tibet and at the same time not give a shit about the escalating authoritarian grip of the US regime, which is infinitely more relevant to their lives?

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mrexcessyesterday at 4:48 PM

>It isn't so much as the rest of the world having easy access. It is what the Chinese want the rest of the world to see.

If your prosperity depends on using technocracy to deny 1.3 billion people the ability to communicate and share ideas with your citizens, a few things are true:

1) You have created a digital iron curtain

2) You are doomed because information wants to be free

3) If you succeed the result will be war, the only thing left when communication breaks down

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potatototoo99yesterday at 4:08 PM

TikTok US it no longer controlled by the Chinese.

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fogzenyesterday at 5:19 PM

The U.S. government has not publicly presented any concrete evidence showing that TikTok has actually been used to influence US public opinion in line with CCP policy.

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freitasmyesterday at 7:06 PM

Using whataboutism doesn't negate the fact that the first amendment is being trampled over by the US administration.

Buying TikTok to censor it is the move of a fascist government.

anthem2025yesterday at 5:05 PM

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direwolf20yesterday at 4:53 PM

We should let people know how bad politicians are. If everyone knows every time a politician is a mass murderer, it might provide an incentive for politicians to stop mass murdering people.

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