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LeFantomeyesterday at 5:19 PM2 repliesview on HN

It is refreshing to see somebody else notice that the complaints about systemd and Wayland are philosophically incompatible.

Systemd is creating the same kind of monolith monoculture that Xorg represented. Wayland is far more modular.

Regardless of your engineering preferences, rejecting change is the main reason to object to both.


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kelnostoday at 1:23 AM

> Wayland is far more modular.

Not sure I agree here, assuming you mean "... than X11". With Wayland, you put your display code, input-handling code, compositor code, session-handling code, and window-management code all in the same process. (Though there is a Wayland protocol being worked on to allow moving the WM bits out-of-process.)

With X11, display and input-handling are in the X server, and all those other functions can be in other processes, communicating over standard interfaces.

graemepyesterday at 9:12 PM

I do not have a strong opinion about Xorg vs Wayland. My only real concern is that it might make it harder for the BSDs but that seems to be being dealt with. I do like being able to use X over the nextwork but that is a problem that can be solved.

I do dislike System D for two reasons. One is exactly because it s a monolith and, in effect, an extension of the OS. The other is the attitude of the developers which becomes very evident if you browser the issues.