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adev_yesterday at 8:14 PM5 repliesview on HN

European researcher here.

There is an other thing that should make America worry.

Research grants have been cut everywhere in the US. That cuts deep and terminated many scientific collaborations between USA and the EU Horizons projects in many STEMs research fields.

That created a void.... and sciences is like nature: it hates void (and the lack of money...)

My perception in the domain is that the resulting void is been fulfilled everywhere by new collaborations with China. Because China has the money, the infrastructures, the will to progress and a shit ton of smart engineers/PhDs.

There is today 10x more conferences in China... more exchange with China... more common projects with China than 10y ago.

So congratulations to the Trump team: your anti-intellectualism is actually directly fueling new technologies and research breakthroughs to the country you consider 'your enemy'.


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kevinsyncyesterday at 8:25 PM

You being an outside observer of my country, what do you think the mid-term (next ~decade) looks like if the US is somehow able to flush the toilet and do a complete 180 from a policy and administration perspective? I imagine even if people we need are welcomed back with open arms, they're not going to want to come. I sure wouldn't want to go back to a bar where the bouncer kicked the shit out of me!

Just curious, it's hard to see things clearly from inside the carnival.

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TacoCommanderyesterday at 8:49 PM

I'm waking up to all the damage that huge tech companies cause. They destroy communities by creating huge inequalities among people.

As long as we have Citizens United here in the USA, big money (no matter who it belongs to) will continue to threaten democracy.

So for the sake of my country, take your tech industry somewhere else.

somethingsomeyesterday at 8:36 PM

Hi, I looked into joint collaborations between many countries and EU, but honestly I didn't really find anything EU-China that was interesting, most funding agencies do not fund collaborative projects EU-China, or maybe I'm missing something, in any cases it didn't strike me. If you have some examples I would be curious.

There are way more opportunities with other countries that I'm aware of, mostly EU-EU.

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WinstonSmith84yesterday at 8:38 PM

I certainly believe you, but you're missing the point of the current administration goals. Trump wont be around in 10 years when the consequences of their actions become clear. In fact, he is gone in 3 years, and the admin is only concerned within that timeframe. Their strategy is quite clear: please their base while simultaneously positioning the family for influence on a global scale.

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Intralexicalyesterday at 8:25 PM

> So congratulations to the Trump team: your stupidity and your hate for intellectualism is directly fueling new technologies to the country you consider 'your enemy'.

Do we have any evidence that they actually consider China (or Russia) to be "the enemy"? They are fellow authoritarians, with a shared goal of normalizing domestic political suppression.

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