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romanhnyesterday at 10:03 PM6 repliesview on HN

A different perspective: https://x.com/aakashgupta/status/2016375397131420005

TL;DR: What London actually built is Europe’s most efficient farm system for US acquirers. The city does the expensive, risky work of finding founders, funding early rounds, and proving product-market fit. American companies wait until the risk is de-risked, then buy the winners at discounts enabled by London’s shrinking public markets.


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monkeydustyesterday at 10:10 PM

London and UK for that matter is great and seeding Startups...high quality universities, entrepreneurialism and attractive tax benefits for angels but for real growth capital it lags massively behind US and has forever.

The Kraken story is one to follow to see if this changes...https://www.british-business-bank.co.uk/news-and-events/news...

dukeyukeyyesterday at 10:09 PM

> enabled by London’s shrinking public markets

That doesn't seem to be true?

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siquickyesterday at 10:23 PM

In football we’d call the US “tap-in merchants”.

dukeyukeyyesterday at 10:48 PM

I don't know Aakash Gupta so I can't say if he's lying or just didn't do his research, but I know the IPO figures he cited there are wrong, like very wrong, which puts everything else there in doubt.

Not to mention location of IPO not being all that important. But that's a whole separate thing.

alephnerdyesterday at 10:13 PM

This.

Also UK contract law is well established and it's easy to find experienced transatlantic lawyers and firms (there's a reason UK lawyers can practice in NY and why both Hong Kong and the Emirate of Dubai kept poaching British judges with contract dispute into their business judiciary).

In most cases when we'd invest in a startup abroad, the founder would often structure their startup as a subsidiary of a US, UK, Singapore (especially Indian/Chinese startups), or Cayman Islands (it's a BOT so you basically get it for free) corporation.

Ironically, this ease of financial access is what makes it difficult to seed a lasting DeepTech startup in the UK because capital would often be deployed to invest in other startup ecosystems. I wrote about this before on HN as well [0][1][2]

[0] - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42768018

[1] - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42767986

[2] - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42763734

philipwhiukyesterday at 10:07 PM

There's an argument that some of these takeovers should have been blocked.