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OutOfHereyesterday at 7:45 PM5 repliesview on HN

For someone who is in such a position in the future, always notify the local police in writing and by phone call, if not also in person, before starting such an exercise. Make sure they have the get-out-of-jail documentation in advance of the exercise. If the police doesn't approve, don't do it. It would be better to get a no-objection letter from the police in advance. Make sure an attorney is aware of the activities and all documentation. Do not take any chances. You don't live in a kind or forgiving world. Handling unknown unknowns is the point.


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sehuggyesterday at 7:59 PM

They had written authorization from the state court and verbal confirmation from state court officials. They didn't know there would be a pissing match between the judicial branch and the sheriff.

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Aurornisyesterday at 8:22 PM

> If the police doesn't approve, don't do it. It would be better to get a no-objection letter from the police in advance.

The article says they did have an authorization letter from the state court officials (the people running the building) and they were released right after the letter was verified with the court officials.

At least from what I can see, the police officers involved were doing the right thing. They detained the suspects, made a proper effort to listen to them and validate their story, and then released them.

It was the Sheriff who showed up and didn't like it who then hassled them further.

They basically had a no-objection letter from the people in charge of the building and the police officers were onboard. It was one person who tried to turn it into something else.

antonymooseyesterday at 10:15 PM

That simply is not how the police work. If they get a call about a break in they’re going to respond and assess.

I bought property with a shooting range years ago from a retired SWAT officer with the county. He mentioned that “he always calls the sheriff’s office to let them know if he was doing anything.” Now I’d never owned a private range and am not from this county.

I called up the sheriff’s office and asked for clarification. I was advised that no such policy / program exists or is required and if the officer must have had is own internal policies and chain o command and that is irrelevant to me as a random citizen. In short, if a call is made about a shooter they will have to respond and so long as I’m not doing anything stupid, dangerous, or outright illegal I have nothing to worry about. The same goes for any other type of call.

xmcp123yesterday at 8:09 PM

Wouldn’t that in a lot of ways invalidate the test?

You’re trying to see what can be done and what the response is from the current security practices and the police showing up seems like an important part of that.

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giantg2yesterday at 10:49 PM

If the state wants to verify the counties are doing an adequate job, then tipping them off could result in an invalid assessment. The sheriff's reaction raises suspicion that there are deficiencies he doesn't want found