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carlosjobimtoday at 12:17 PM3 repliesview on HN

I see this differently.

For European citizens and companies the safest option will always be to have their data in the USA or anywhere where European rulers cannot touch it.

The same for Americans, their data should be safest far away from their government.


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purkkatoday at 1:06 PM

The Europeans have already cooperated with Americans so that each could read each other's citizens' private messaging which would be illegal for the locals.

Keeping the data overseas by design would just make this easier.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Trojan_Shield

rvnxtoday at 2:48 PM

Finally, this is the comment I was looking for.

If you are in France you may benefit from having your data outside of France unless it's really safe stuff (e.g. a website about your dog) and no user-generated content.

Because, if they seize your server for a case A, and they see evidence for case B, they can charge you for B, C, D, E...

Of course the government, public policy, police and intelligence folks are going to tell you:

    "yes yes don't worry, bring your data here, it'll be safer with us. Don't put it in countries like Russia or China where they do not cooperate."

We talk about the country (France!) which already requires you to give your ID card or take a selfie of your face to be permitted to look at porn sites.

In a few months you will have to give your ID to access Discord, Meta, X, etc, and in September 2026 giving ID will be mandatory to subscribe to VPNs.

(and yes technically these services can't be blocked, but once they'll threaten you or the operators of such services with jail and big fines it will be difficult to resist).

If your server is in Russia or China, well, good luck, so many traps during the procedure that unless it is really important, the French authorities are going to give up.

Russia doesn't care about non-Russian stuff, China the same, if you own a small clone of X for example, you are much safer there, and it is easier to operate.

The only thing is that you have to make more frequent backups, as the things are less reliable there, so you can move somewhere else.

cindyllmtoday at 12:26 PM

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