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nltoday at 12:28 PM0 repliesview on HN

I think there's a difference between people getting a system a d realising it isn't actually what they wanted and "never survive collision with reality".

They survive by being modified and I don't think that invalidates the process that got them in front of people faster than would otherwise have been possible.

This isn't a defence of waterfall though. It's really about increasing the pace of agile and the size of the loop that is possible.