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Ms-Jyesterday at 3:07 PM8 repliesview on HN

Who do they expect to fall for the claims that a Facebook owned messenger couldn't read your "encrypted" messages? It's truly funny.

Any large scale provider with headquarters in the USA will be subject to backdoors and information sharing with the government when they want to read or know what you are doing.


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olalondeyesterday at 4:04 PM

Me? I'd be very surprised if they can actually read encrypted messages (without pushing a malicious client update). The odds that no one at Meta would blow the whistle seem low, and a backdoor would likely be discovered by independent security researchers.

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Aurornisyesterday at 3:57 PM

> Any large scale provider with headquarters in the USA will be subject to backdoors and information sharing with the government when they want to read or know what you are doing.

Not just the USA. This is basically universal.

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huijzeryesterday at 3:39 PM

I have reached the point that I think even the chat control discussion might be a distraction because essentially they can already get anything. Yeah government needs to fill in a form to request, but that’s mostly automated I believe

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mattmaroonyesterday at 3:21 PM

I think you can safely remove “in the USA” from that sentence.

rdtscyesterday at 3:55 PM

> Any large scale provider with headquarters in the USA will be subject to backdoors

Wonder what large scale provider outside USA won’t do that?

preisschildyesterday at 4:05 PM

> Any large scale provider with headquarters in the USA will be subject to backdoors and information sharing with the government when they want to read or know what you are doing.

Thats just wrong. Signal for example is headquartered in the US and does not even have this capability (besides metadata)

kgwxdyesterday at 3:34 PM

They're only concerned someone at meta, they don't already control, could read their personal messages.

hsuduebc2yesterday at 3:25 PM

I do not believe them either. The swift start of the investigation by U.S. authorities only suggests there was no obstacle to opening one, not that nothing could be found. By “could not,” I mean it is not currently possible to confirm, not that there is necessarily nothing there.

Personally, I would never trust anyone big enough that it(in this case Meta) need and want to be deeply entangled in politics.