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4b11b4yesterday at 7:40 PM1 replyview on HN

Yeah alpha go and zero were lame. The earth foundation model - that's just ridiculous.

That's sarcasm

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Your "direct Gemini calls" is maybe the least impressive

edit: This paper is mostly a sort of "quantitative survey". Nothing to get too excited about requiring a grain of salt


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verdvermyesterday at 7:55 PM

The underlying models are impressive, be it Gemini (via direct API calls, vs the app or search), I would include alpha-go/fold/etc in that classification

The products they build, where the agentic stuff is, is what I find unimpressive. The quality is low, the UX is bad, they are forced into every product. Two notable examples, search in GCloud, gemini-cli, antigravity (not theirs technically, $2B whitelabel deal with windsurf iirc)

So yes, I see it as perfectly acceptable to be more skeptical of Google's take on agentic systems when I find their real world applications lackluster

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