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saubeidlyesterday at 8:27 PM0 repliesview on HN

The difference is, imo, the Constitution.

Had the Treaty establishing a Constitution for Europe succeeded, I would agree with your point.

Since it hasn't, it's all just a bunch of treaties between countries. Yes, there is European politican entities. But they all just exist by the power of the member states instituting them. They are not (yet?) established as powers in their own right.