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crazygringotoday at 12:18 AM2 repliesview on HN

America only has 340 million people to begin with. Then, half the population doesn't even fly in a given year. Those that do are mostly aware of the RealID requirement and either got it whenever they last renewed their driver's license, or renewed early because their DMV kept mailing them warnings about needing to do so if they wanted to fly. Yes, most people who fly either have it, or are getting it before their next flight. Part of the $45 fee is also to incentivize people to get the RealID, as that will obviously be cheaper for them over the long run.

That's the point. It's not to make money. The primary purpose is to get people to use RealID, and to cover the costs of the extra screening for those who don't. For however much more money they take in, you need to subtract the cost of the additional staff they need to hire and pay to handle it, plus the tech systems.

Also, remember you can just use a passport instead. That hasn't changed.


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rubyn00bietoday at 12:57 AM

There’s quite a bit of evidence to say there are still millions without one, especially depending on the state, this article is from 9 months ago:

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/real-id-deadline-weeks-away-mos...

I personally have a hard time believing that a “Real” ID that does not verify citizenship or residency is meaningfully different from my current one. I certainly do not believe there are increased costs associated with my existing ID, that would be alleviated with a Real ID. At no point have I ever heard Real ID exists to reduce costs (though if that’s true, I’d love to read how). IMHO it may not be a “cash grab,” but it’s certainly punitive. And, for what it’s worth, there have been no extra steps I’ve had to take or increased screening when using my existing ID for the past year. Same photo machine, same scanner, as everyone else.

I will personally just renew my passport to avoid the fee until I need to renew my drivers license.

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Forgeties79today at 12:54 AM

You keep saying “most” which I agreed with for starters and still leaves a ton of people.

Also almost half the population flies annually, so we’re starting around 150mill.

You need numbers at this point. I am willing to bet millions flying don’t have it.

Here’s an article from April 2025: https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/real-id-deadline-may/